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PostSubject: Two Outers   Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:01 pm



Stage #473617583 Tourney ID 5889676 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 150 - 2010-12-10 21:29:33 (ET)
Table: 7 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
Seat 1 - CODDBRUNSON2 (3,638 in chips)
Seat 2 - TALOND1 (25,947 in chips)
Seat 3 - WARA234 (2,352 in chips)
Seat 4 - QUAKE419 (2,438 in chips)
Seat 5 - GGG_BY_GOLLY (35,432 in chips)
Seat 6 - XCANDYCOATED (2,064 in chips)
Seat 7 - RODELPHI1 (2,310 in chips)
Seat 8 - DRIPINGSLICK (3,573 in chips)
Seat 9 - BLACKSNAKE50 (3,351 in chips)
CODDBRUNSON2 - Posts small blind 75
TALOND1 - Posts big blind 150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CODDBRUNSON2 [10h 8h]
WARA234 - Folds
QUAKE419 - Folds
GGG_BY_GOLLY - Folds
XCANDYCOATED - Folds
RODELPHI1 - Folds
DRIPINGSLICK - Folds
BLACKSNAKE50 - Folds
CODDBRUNSON2 - Raises 225 to 300
TALOND1 - Raises 750 to 900
CODDBRUNSON2 - Calls 600
*** FLOP *** [6s 8d 6h]
CODDBRUNSON2 - Bets 1,238
TALOND1 - Raises 5,514 to 5,514
CODDBRUNSON2 - All-In 1,500
TALOND1 - returned (2,776) : not called
*** TURN *** [6s 8d 6h] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [6s 8d 6h 2d] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CODDBRUNSON2 - Shows [10h 8h] (Two Pair, eights and sixes)
TALOND1 - Shows [5c 5d] (Full house, fives full of sixes)
TALOND1 Collects 7,276 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(7,276)
Board [6s 8d 6h 2d 5s]
Seat 1: CODDBRUNSON2 (small blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, eights and sixes [10h 8h - P:8h,B:8d,B:6s,B:6h,P:10h]
Seat 2: TALOND1 (big blind) won Total (7,276) HI:(7,276) with Full house, fives full of sixes [5c 5d - B:5s,P:5d,P:5c,B:6s,B:6h]
Seat 3: WARA234 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: QUAKE419 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: GGG_BY_GOLLY Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: XCANDYCOATED Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: RODELPHI1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: DRIPINGSLICK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: BLACKSNAKE50 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:35 pm

This wiped me out of the tournament. I got knocked out in 75th place out of 329. 19 places paid, 2k in tournament tickets. I was doing pretty good up until this hand. The worst part about it is, I don't know, there's a lot of worst parts about it. Maybe I shouldn't have been playing T8s, probably not, but I was SB and everyone else folded. I raised pretty much hoping to take the blinds, or see a flop I liked. I flopped top pair, and I knew I had him beat. I made a good bet, that said I got u beat, but he was too retarded to let a pocket pair go. I had him beat pre flop 51 to 48 percent, 1 percent chance to tie. That's not that good, but after the flop 91 to 9. After the turn 95 to 5 percent. A one in 22 chance, and he hit it. He called with under cards to the board, and sucked out. The worst part about it, I think, is I would have had more respect for AK, AQ, AJ, AT, A9, KQ, KJ, KT, K9, QJ, QT, Q9, JT, J9 or T9, cause at least they were overs to the board, and had more than 2 fucking outs.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:02 am

i was out because on river 1 stupid ass got A and hit a bigger straight!!
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:06 am

Ouch, horrible beat there.

There is nothing worse than watching a donkey hit their 1 or 2 outer to knock you out.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:18 am

Sorry but I don't see it the way you do

You seem to skip some rather important details in your synopsis

You're not exactly short stacked as you have 3.6k and the blinds are only 150, - BUT the BB has 26k!!

You say you 'raised pretty much hoping to take the blinds' - with a min! raise into that stack! that was NEVER going to work, then when he tells you that he's not buying it and may well have a good hand by re-raising you ANOTHER 5 BB's, you call! Why? with T8? what did you think you would beat?

So post flop you make a valiant stab at representing a good hand but if you are going to bet 1200 then call 1500 when he re-raises you really should have pushed. I don't blame him for thinking you probably didn't hit the flop with a hand you raised with, more likely you are C betting AK

The point is that although you are showing strength, that is a pretty good flop for him and with his stack he can put you to the test for ALL your chips

You make a good call though and you are ahead, BUT it is not a two outer, he has straight possibilities too
sure it is a thin draw by the turn, but ALL your chips went in on the flop

I wouldn't have been in that hand

Don't try to steal the big-stack's blinds. He can afford to defend with a pair, you can't afford to get drawn into putting all your chips on the line with a marginal hand

On top of all that, I don't think this is in any way a bad beat.
With his stack and that hand he had to defend and the slim chance he caught at the end is all part of the 49% he held pre flop. Winning hands lose all the time, it is part of the game and you will go nuts if you take it hard every time.

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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:41 am

Sam, you pretty much summed up what I was going to say.

If you play garbage cards, even if attempting a steal, you cannot complain if you lose.

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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:05 pm

Today, knocked out in 8th place out of 652. AA vs QQ. I raise, he reraises all in, I call, flops a Q.

Missed the screenshot.

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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:33 am

being beaten when the other one only has two outers is something I hate, specially when playing in cash games. But is is poker u know, not much to do about it.
what is more, big stacks play in an agressive way, and they sometimes get lucky like in this hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:05 pm



Stage #476117763 Tourney ID 5850571 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 200 - 2010-12-12 16:54:41 (ET)
Table: 135 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 1 - KOLLINWOOD22 (3,389 in chips)
Seat 2 - BBARRINGTON (3,025 in chips)
Seat 3 - DEBO34 (3,901 in chips)
Seat 4 - 1DAVIDYEE (1,349 in chips)
Seat 5 - BAINENO111 (4,055 in chips)
Seat 6 - OUTLAW_22 (3,840 in chips)
Seat 7 - CODDBRUNSON (1,325 in chips)
Seat 8 - MSROBOTO (7,047 in chips)
Seat 9 - PEERLESS67 (13,320 in chips)
KOLLINWOOD22 - Ante 25
BBARRINGTON - Ante 25
DEBO34 - Ante 25
1DAVIDYEE - Ante 25
BAINENO111 - Ante 25
OUTLAW_22 - Ante 25
CODDBRUNSON - Ante 25
MSROBOTO - Ante 25
PEERLESS67 - Ante 25
PEERLESS67 - Posts small blind 100
KOLLINWOOD22 - Posts big blind 200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CODDBRUNSON [Ah 5h]
BBARRINGTON - Folds
DEBO34 - Folds
1DAVIDYEE - Folds
BAINENO111 - Folds
OUTLAW_22 - Folds
CODDBRUNSON - All-In(Raise) 1,300 to 1,300
MSROBOTO - Calls 1,300
PEERLESS67 - Folds
KOLLINWOOD22 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2s 8d]
*** TURN *** [Jd 2s 8d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2s 8d Kc] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CODDBRUNSON - Shows [Ah 5h] (ace high)
MSROBOTO - Shows [Ad 2d] (One pair, twos)
MSROBOTO Collects 3,125 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(3,125)
Board [Jd 2s 8d Kc Qs]
Seat 1: KOLLINWOOD22 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: BBARRINGTON Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: DEBO34 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: 1DAVIDYEE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BAINENO111 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: OUTLAW_22 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: CODDBRUNSON HI:lost with ace high [Ah 5h - P:Ah,B:Kc,B:Qs,B:Jd,B:8d]
Seat 8: MSROBOTO (dealer) won Total (3,125) HI:(3,125) with One pair, twos [Ad 2d - B:2s,P:2d,P:Ad,B:Kc,B:Qs]
Seat 9: PEERLESS67 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:09 pm

Not a Two Outer, but pretty gross. Nother tournament knocked out by a worse hand. At least I wasnt doing good in this tournament.
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PostSubject: Re: Two Outers   Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:34 pm

mbn good hit, too often it happen against us
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